June 19, 2011

The All-Star Game Nonboycott of Arizona

My new VDARE column investigates the amusing rise and fall of the movement to boycott the baseball All-Star Game in Arizona next month. Who is it who really gets themselves enraged at Arizona voters? Not the average Mexican-American voter, that's for sure.

57 comments:

Let's! said...

stereotypical Jewish tendencies, such as neurotic anxiety, persecution complexes, and a weakness for he-who-says-A-must-say-B verbal logic

I know a very smart Southern Baptist who's just like this. Maybe a lot of nerds are Jewish on the inside?

Whiskey said...

The column is fine, up to a point. I'd agree that Auster and yourself nailed the Liberal Jewish idea of being the "leaders" of some huge pan-ethnic non-violent movement, fighting discrimination and evil. To make themselves important and give their lives meaning.

BUT ... John McCain, Bill Gates, Steve Jobs, Larry Ellison, Katie Couric, Cardinal Mahoney, Tony Villaraigosa, Bill Keller, Chris Matthews, Lindsay Grahmnesty, Juan Williams, and ... BARACK OBAMA are not Jews. Indeed most of the pressure for Open Borders/Amnesty comes from:

1. Businesses both small and large, seeking permanent cheap labor and disposable workers.

2. Labor Organizers like SEIU's Andy Stern seeking warm bodies for rent-a-mob tactics.

3. Professional Ethnic agitators seeking advancement by importing masses of new voters.

4. Democrats seeking a permanent majority.

and finally ...

5. RINOs terrified beyond measure of being called "racist."

The Southern Baptists and Mormon Church have both endorsed Amnesty and Open Borders. Who knew they were controlled by Jews?

Whiskey said...

Liberal, hard-left Jews like Tony Kushner ("Munich," "Angels in America") and Woody Allen and so forth get a lot of press in the infotainment area. But their influence pales behind, say Bill Gates or Warren Buffett or Carlos Slim or Lindsay Grahamnesty or Barack Obama.

To say nothing of the Catholic Church (in favor 100% of Open Borders and Amnesty) and prominent folks like Cardinal Roger Mahony (constant Amnesty and Open Borders agitator) and ... Mitt Romney and the Mormon Hierarchy.

Heck, Oprah Winfrey agitating for Open Borders has about 50X the effectiveness of anything Woody Allen or some obscure Lesbian Jewish sports scholar has to say. Don't forget that the desire for cheap domestic labor among the White female middle class plays a huge role in the mass acceptance of mass immigration.

Go onto any female-dominated forum, and just lurk around to see what is said about Immigration Restriction. It's like the View on Steroids.

RKU said...

Yep, just exactly what I've been telling everyone (including WN-types) for years: Hispanics just aren't very politically-oriented or ethnically-focused.

But now that Steve's basically saying the exact same thing, maybe a few people will actually tend to listen...

Anonymous said...

Public Enemy believes that the powers that be in the states of New Hampshire and Arizona have found psychological discomfort in paying tribute to a black man who tried to teach white people the meaning of civilization.

Which is funny, because I'm pretty sure the powers the be pretty much everywhere have found psychological discomfort in paying tribute to any white leader who succeeded in teaching blacks the meaning of civilization.

It's funny to think that white men once had actual political power, isn't it?

I worked nine hours my first Fathers' Day. Usually I work Monday to Friday, but my girl boss let it slip that I had to work on Sunday. I got to listen to the girls bitch about how horrible men are. I'm sure they all make more than me, and I know none of them has any master's degrees, unlike me.

Anonymous said...

"It’s important to realize that this broad campaign in the respectable Main Stream Media to incite racial hatred of whites among Hispanics isn’t at all the result of a conscious Jewish conspiracy."

Whew, that's a relief.

"Instead, it’s largely the outcome of various stereotypical Jewish tendencies, such as..."

Ah.

Steve, do you think anyone other than Jews might be responsible for at least a tiny bit of this?

soren said...

This Huffington Post article is a hilarious train wreck...

No eHarmony With Asian Men

An out of context excerpt: Such social and romantic ostracism even by "fat white women with daddy issues" -- the sorts who go for black men according to standup comedian Jim Norton -- might seem incredulous to Asian men with an inflated ego to nurse.

Someone needs to inform this guy that he's wrong about asian guys vs black guys at least with regards to marriage... the average asian guy is more likely to marry a white woman than the average black guy.

Anonymous said...

One thing is for sure as Sailer's article makes clear: Jews, most of whom are liberal(and neocons agree on the immigration issue), have an agenda of using Hispanics AGAINST whites. Then, the logical thing is to use Hispanics against Jews.
Culturally, many Hispanics feel closer to the GOP(on issues such as 'gay marriage' and fear of black crime); and politically, they feel closer to Democrats on issues such as more programs/benefits/affirmative action.
Since Hispanics tend to vote on political than cultural issues, what is to be done?

The only way is to change the GOP anti-tax position. Anti-tax policy burdens the middle classes since the superduper rich don't pay their 'fair share'. Though one can make a case that the superrich pay more than their 'fair share', we should make them pay MORE since they are the elites who control Wall Street, media, and much else; the elites call the shots and pick the politicians. Since the elites--with Jews as the Power Elite--invited all these immigrants, MAKE THEM PAY. So, GOP should be for lower taxes for middle class, upper middle class, and moderate rich but for extreme tax hikes on the very rich and superrich, most of whom are liberal Jews, neocon Jews, and liberal wasps. Since they preach to us about 'social justice', MAKE THEM PAY!!!

This way, GOP can be pro-white in calling for low taxes for the vast majority of whites--who are in the middle bracket--and also attract Hispanics by supporting government programs to be PAID FOR BY THE VERY RICH AND SUPERRICH.

If GOP keeps supporting all-around tax cuts--even for the superrich--, the middle class will be burdened with having to support a lot of government programs(ironically devised by superrich-sponsored intellectuals).

Majority of middle class Americans are anti-immigration. Majority of very rich and superrich are pro-immigration. So, I say MAKE THE SUPERRICH PAY for the mess. Also, we should push for programs forcing the richest communities to open their gates to poorest members of society. Force gentrified parts of NY and elsewhere to develop huge housing projects for the poor to live next door.

Most white people are not rich and will never be. We are sick of 'our' elites. They forces policies we don't like. So MAKE THEM PAY. This way, GOP has better hope of both retaining white support and gaining more Hispanic support. We say to Hispanics, 'okay, we support the programs you want but they will be paid for by the superrich. Also, we support affirmative action for you guys, but we also want affirmative action for middle class whites at the expense of privileged uppercrust wasps and Jews--who are mostly liberal.)

Anonymous said...

Steve says we shouldn't label what the Jews have done as a Conscious Conspiracy to destroy us. And instead we should just laugh at them and belittle them into doing the right thing.

I understand where Steve is coming from.

This may be the right path for now.

But I feel that with the Jews they say "If you Don't Do Exactly What I want You To Do then I take that as an Act of War and I will Destroy you" Basically they want everyone to kiss their ass...which then translates into being their pet dog or slave.

So the question is....Steve's way of handling them is correct if the Jews in fact cannot do anything to hurt us. But I don't think it's heading that way...They have hurt us, mortally, in all of our countries. And it sounds crazy but what if a Jewish Nation/Empire emerged after a clearing of Muslim Lands....With the attitude above we could have a real problem on our hands.

But for now I think Steve is right...all Americans need to turn their back to the Jews who act like that. Of course then they'll get fired from their jobs...

I don't think it's that simple Steve :( :( I wish it was though!

I do think it's a conscious conspiracy though. At least at the top levels (maybe not with the lesbian rabbi though LOL! got a true believer there!)

Wandrin said...

"“The larger truth is that Arizona’s anti-immigrant fervor is still very much alive, and Selig is putting his Latino players in the impossible position of having to choose between showing solidarity to their people or to the game that has enriched them even as they have enriched it.”"

I wonder if Mr Mahler supports White people "showing soldidarity to their people" also or is it racism and nativism when white people do it but not when everyone else does?

Wandrin said...

"Steve, do you think anyone other than Jews might be responsible for at least a tiny bit of this?"

The overwhelming disparate impact in the MSM, especially the NYT, makes it hard to tell.

Kylie said...

From the linked NYT article: "...Selig is putting his Latino players in the impossible position of having to choose between showing solidarity to their people or to the game that has enriched them even as they have enriched it."

Impossible position? Hardly.

Eric "My People" Holder didn't have any problem making a similar choice. Maybe he can give them a few handy hints on how it's done.

RKU said...

Anonymous: So, GOP should be for lower taxes for middle class, upper middle class, and moderate rich but for extreme tax hikes on the very rich and superrich

C'mon, this is a joke, right? The GOP should support extreme tax hikes on the very rich and superrich...the people who **OWN** the GOP??!! Why not suggest something infinitely easier, like getting the GOP to endorse mandatory late-term abortions for all the Christian women in America?...

[Hispanics] feel closer to Democrats on issues such as more programs/benefits/affirmative action.

That's really not correct. Very few Hispanics either benefit from AA, or care about it. Remember, Hispanics are much less likely to work for the government or big corporations than whites (or, obviously, blacks). Most Hispanics work for small, non-AA-type employers, where most of the other employees are also Hispanic. So if 80% of the employees working in a shop or at a small factory or whatever are Hispanic, what does AA even mean? The really big "political" issue for most ordinary Hispanics are things like supporting strong unions and a higher minimum wage. And I think the GOP will endorse those sorts of policies...around the same time it endorses "extreme tax hikes" on the supperrich---ha, ha, ha...

Basically, about the only Hispanics who really care about AA are maybe a few Hispanic VPs of Corporate Diversity, and since many of them might make enough money to get hit with those "extreme tax hikes," you'd lose their votes for other reasons.

Anonymous said...

How dare the superrich make jobs! Tax them until they stop, so that the lower and middle classes can rot in poverty and the superrich can be just a little worse off, kinda, maybe.

Envy is ugly.

jody said...

larry ellison is jewish, whiskey. instead of him you could put ted kennedy on your list. or the modern mormon church (edit: saw that you did).

although i agree with your general point. the "oh my god jews control everything!" crowd does go overboard with blaming ashkenazi jews in the US, for many things happening not only in america but around the world. plenty of majority european nations where few jewish folks live are still presently committing national suicide with their own self inflicted slow and steady political drift to the left.

it is uncanny though how once there are a few hundred thousand ashkenazi jews in some country, their group personality trait begin to exert itself and in only a few decades, many of the political figures who are the most openly hostile to the local people, are reliably jewish. again i add the caveat that only a segment of the jewish population is into this kind of thing, but the ones who are seem to be nearly obsessed with the topic.

Justin said...

Hispanics as the "New, Improved Blacks"!!! Nice, that is Sailerian gold right there.

I always wondered, did they ever consider the effect on AZ's Hispanics by their boycott of AZ? Like somehow they can only hurt Whites in AZ? The Hispanics of AZ would just be unaffected? Weird...

jody said...

steve talked about baseball. i've posted before about ross greenburg, the president of HBO sports, a guy who is intensely anti-white. greenburg often goes far out of his way to avoid showing any boxing match which would be an obvious and logical choice for HBO to purchase and broadcast, if the match has a good chance of ending with a european knocking out an african. greenburg selectively purchases matches for HBO based on what i now think is a classic pattern of "jewish guy using non-whites against whites in sports".

it became a lot more evident after HBO was forced to fire long time executive chris albrecht, who is not jewish i don't think, and greenburg took control of HBO sports.

i was skeptical of this 10 years ago when i switched from being a casual fan of boxing to being a serious fan of boxing, but now it is undeniable. like my conversion on the subject of "Are NBA games fixed?" i started out extremely skeptical but then after watching for 10 years and seeing things like lakers kings 2002, heat mavericks 2006, and spurs suns 2007, i was certain some games were arranged to favor one team over another. the tim donaghy arrest sealed the deal.

of course HBO does not control all boxing in the world or even in the US, but the HBO agenda under greenburg is undeniable. to fill the programming void left by avoiding showing major belt championship matches if they're probably gonna end with a white guy knocking out a black guy, greenburg goes out and throws money at good but not great prospects from third world nations. as long as they are not europeans, and they can bang a bit, there's a good chance HBO will start overpaying them to appear in their boxing events.

now greenburg has tired even of best selling boxer manny pacquiao. he's defeating african boxers one after another, and greenburg don't like that. he has banned pacquiao from HBO pay per view from this point forward, despite the financial hit HBO will take.

i've noticed the same pattern among jewish boxing writers and analysts. again, it's mainly only in the US, but if a guy in the industry is jewish, it's almost certain he can barely hide his contempt for european boxers and hopes that non-europeans defeat them.

Ian said...

Great article, as always, Steve.

FWIW, it's impression that Auster does not like to be simply labelled "Jewish". He is ancestrally, of course, but it's also my impression that he feels strongly about his conversion to Christianity.

Anonymous said...

Yes.
And the irony is people such as Michael Bloomberg are utterly ruthless, pitiless, unforgiving and uncompromising in their determination to extirpate the territory of Israel of Palestinians (who happen to be the indigenous heirs to the soil of that territory), with their hateful determination to remove and even kill and maim these poor people being determined solely by race.
The USA, on the other hand, is forbidden by the likes of Bloomberg to institute even the mildest of immigration controls and self-determinaton regarding who can come in and who can't.To Bloomberg and his ilk, the USA is not allowed to be a nation state with national feeling, why, it must be the world's doss house and railroad station waiting room - 'good for business', you see (nevermind the subprime).

Difference Maker said...

Steve, do you think anyone other than Jews might be responsible for at least a tiny bit of this?

Do you?

Anonymous said...

I wonder if Jonathan Mahler is related to Gustav Mahler?

dearieme said...

"Mahler thinks the Dominicans, Puerto Ricans, and Cubans should be “showing solidarity to their people” but the plain fact is they don’t think of Mexicans as “their people”.

Is it common to use "people" as a euphemism for "race"? Is it better than "population subgroup", as I've seen used by sorta scientists? (To be fair, "race" in English has such a variable, elastic meaning that scientists clearly need something, or somethings, better, but "population subgroup" is rather vague too.)

IHTG said...

This way, GOP can be pro-white in calling for low taxes for the vast majority of whites--who are in the middle bracket--and also attract Hispanics by supporting government programs to be PAID FOR BY THE VERY RICH AND SUPERRICH.

This is actually the stated position of (very Jewish) HalfSigma, minus the pro-Hispanic motivation.

eh said...

Nice column. But you should not have forgotten to mention who recently invested heavily in the NYT, which will doubtless soon need more money.

Steve Sailer said...

"I wonder if Jonathan Mahler is related to Gustav Mahler?"

It wouldn't be so bad to go through life bearing the same last name as one of the 1,000 or so individuals who are so famous they are just known by their last names.

Here's a question: which surnames was borne by the most individuals who would be known by just their surname if not for disambiguation needs.

For example, the famous economist is always called "Adam Smith" to distinguish him from all the other Smiths famous in intellectual spheres ... except I can't think of that many Smiths who would get confused with Adam Smith: John Smith, Joseph Smith, Al Smith, Kate Smith ... they all seem like you probably wouldn't get them confused with Adam Smith.

On the other hand, there are three Huxleys of about equal level of moderate fame who could be easily confused because they were all related and all put forward strong opinions on subjects like nature and nurture.

Steve Sailer said...

Different countries have different degrees of variation in their last names. Korea, for instance, is majority Kim, which is confusing.

In contrast, Italy appears to me to be ideal in terms of names for famous people: it enjoys a wide abundance of different names, but most of them are sonorous and/or evocative, and they are relatively easy to pronounce and spell.

Anonymous said...

How dare the superrich make jobs! Tax them until they stop, so that the lower and middle classes can rot in poverty and the superrich can be just a little worse off, kinda, maybe.

Envy is ugly.


Bollocks!

Yes, some super rich creative types create jobs. But what do the army of leeches in Wall St creat exactly?

Anonymous said...

As the Sex Pistols might have put it:

Never Mind THE BLOOMBERG

Here's THE BOLLOCKS.

Anonymous said...

It's quite a fraugt subject considering if all carriers of the same surname are, in fact, related.
With many common English surnames such as Smith, Clark etc, it is almost a given that any two bearers are not related, but I heard from a Maltese that bearers of the common Maltese surnames are related somewhere along the line.

Londoner said...

Ridiculous thesis, Steve - you should know by now that white women are to blame (for this and everything else).

Londoner said...

Italy has over 300,000 indigenous surnames - far more than any other European language area and (I am guessing) more than most of them combined. In fact why limit it to Europe - Italian surnames must make up a good proportion of ALL human surnames.

Apart from a very few such as Ferrari ('Smith'), I can think of no examples of non-related Italians sharing a surname. Languages such as German, Dutch and French (all, like Italian, relatively light on patronymics) also exhibit strong surname diversity, but Italian is miles ahead.

At the other end of the scale come the Welsh, a clear majority of whom are either Joneses, Thomases, Wiliamses or Davieses, with Griffiths, Evans, Richards, Roberts and a handful of others mopping up most of the rest.

Howard Hughes said...

Whiskey,
And still, it was Jewish organizations that pushed through immigration reform in the 60s. Almost every Jewish pundit, politican and public figure is pro-open borders. The cultural influence of Jews is used to weaken to national cohesion, increase immigration and spread 'anti-racism'. The same pattern exists in other Western countries. This is simply facts. You may like or dislike it, you may even think it is irrational for organized Jewry to act like this, but wishful thinking and ideological dogmatism doesn't change how the world works.

Kylie said...

"greenburg selectively purchases matches for HBO based on what i now think is a classic pattern of 'jewish guy using non-whites against whites in sports'."

Oh, so that's it. Years ago, my husband and I got HBO for the boxing. When it started to be mainly black guys beating up white guys, I lost interest. I could watch that live for free any night I took a stroll through my old neighborhood, I'm not going to pay a monthly subscription fee to watch it on TV.

Anonymous said...

@Soren

Black men usually impregnate the girl and leave, they don't tend to stay around for marriage.

Anonymous said...

The Southern Baptists and Mormon Church have both endorsed Amnesty and Open Borders.

The Mormons only endorsed Amnesty, fwiw.

-Osvaldo M.

http://www.jrganymede.com/2011/06/16/another-reason-not-to-vote-for-mitt-romney/

Truth said...

"now greenburg has tired even of best selling boxer manny pacquiao. he's defeating african boxers one after another, and greenburg don't like that. he has banned pacquiao from HBO pay per view from this point forward, despite the financial hit HBO will take."

Well now, there you go agina, playing hard and loose with the facts!

Manny Pacquaio turned pro 16 years ago, and he has defeated exactly ONE(!)African-American boxer IN HIS CAREER, washed up Shane Mosley this year.

http://boxrec.com/list_bouts.php?cat=boxer&human_id=6129

And HBO has broadcast many fights involving white fighters fighting blacks including those with Kelly Pavlik, Joe Calzaghe, both Klitchko brothers, Tommy Morrison, Andrew Golota,Paulie Mallinaggi.

For fucks sake, they just showed Jason Litzau - Adrien Bronner LAST SATURDAY

Anonymous said...

"Yep, just exactly what I've been telling everyone (including WN-types) for years: Hispanics just aren't very politically-oriented or ethnically-focused."

True, but what will their kids be like after the US puplic school system and the entertainment industry get to indoctrinate them?

O'Raiffeartaigh said...

The claim that Hispaincs are indifferent on the immigration issue is very not likely to be true.

The fact of the matter is they vote for demographic transformation every time the vote Democratic. They are well aware of what's at stake.

If you are a White American Male in California, try protesting against illegal immigration in an area of California infested with Mexicans. You risk being beaten up-you will be beaten up by the Mexicans. By the way, there is a story about race-replacement in California that has yet to be told: the use of force and violence by Mexicans in California to dive blue collar White Americans out of construction jobs and jobs in the trades.

Try deporting America. It will provoke massive Mexican racial nationalism.

The few times that I have seen this issue about the discrepancy between the views on immigration between ordnary Hispanics and Hispanic ethnic activists being debated on TV, the Hispanic ethnic activists did a quite convincing job of demolishing this widely held myth among immigration activist.

Mexican and Hispanic immigration is a time bomb that can go off under the right circumstances. And the Hispanic immigration time bomb dimension to it. The water from the Whiter Western States is being stolen for the sole purpose of fattening the Mexican-Hispanic ferulity time bomb in California.

White American Men and Women have a choice:they can consume Sports Entertainment or they can reclaim lost living space stolen by Mexicans and Hispanics. The consequences of not reclaiming this lost living space will be catastrophic.

Tijuana Brass said...

I had seen a couple of stories involving this Alpert but nowhere did they mention that she's a rabbi who bats for the other team.

Trying to parse the contradictory agendas here makes my head hurt; I wish there were a Syrian teen lesbian around to explain things...

travis said...

Like a lot of Americans, I’ve slowly lost interest in baseball over the years. . .Yet, the lack of compelling personalities among the growing number of Latin ballplayers has also contributed to baseball’s long decline relative to the American-dominated NFL.

There's an episode of The Simpsons in which Bart and Milhouse have the following exchange while playing baseball:

Bart: "Look at me! I'm Tomokazu Ohka of the Montreal Expos!

Milhouse: "And I'm Esteban Yan of the Tampa Bay Devil Rays!

Anonymous said...

Whiskey,
And still, it was Jewish organizations that pushed through immigration reform in the 60s. Almost every Jewish pundit, politican and public figure is pro-open borders. The cultural influence of Jews is used to weaken to national cohesion, increase immigration and spread 'anti-racism'. The same pattern exists in other Western countries. This is simply facts. You may like or dislike it, you may even think it is irrational for organized Jewry to act like this, but wishful thinking and ideological dogmatism doesn't change how the world works.



True enough. You could also add that a lot of the open borders enthusiasm on the right these days is related to the Jewish Neoconservative takeover of the Republican establishment.

What you miss is that there are a very large number of non-Jewish groups and individuals that want an open border. Business lobbies, ethnic activists, labor bosses, bleeding heart Christians, expedient Tammany Hall style politicians looking for a docile vote bank, bueracrats, politically correct liberals. Taken together, they're more than enough to keep the border open. Which is why plenty of Western nations with less influential Jewish communities still pursue this insanity, though to a lesser extent. Jews, of course, make the situation that much worse in every Western country, especially the US.

Anonymous said...

Yet, the lack of compelling personalities among the growing number of Latin ballplayers has also contributed to baseball’s long decline relative to the American-dominated NFL.

Don't discount the ease of gambling on football over baseball. Even though "fantasy" really started with baseball decades ago, it hasn't become big business until the internet allowed for easy calculation of football statistics. Instead of one guy doing it by hand and sending out updates through the mail (how quaint), your average football fan can watch it update in real time. And you don't have to do much work compared to baseball; just set your lineup once a week and sit back and watch 12 hours of games.

Anonymous said...

Mexicans are generally too apathetic and lethargic to be the "New Blacks." The Carribean Hispanics (mulatto Dominicians and mulatto/Taino Puerto Ricans) seem to have quite a bit of talent in baseball and some in pop culture, much more than Mexicans, but they seem to also be infected with Latino fatalism. Only Cuban-Americans have the energy and drive to get things done and they seem to have carved a big sphere of influence for themselves in Miami/South Florida.

It says a lot when the large majority of well known Latinos in American public life are Dominician, Puerto Rican, Cuban, or Mexicans with white American ancestry (ie Tony Romo).

Anonymous said...

Bottom of the 9th, 2 outs, bases loaded, Paleocons down by 3 . . .

And Sailer hits it out of the park!

Anonymous said...

"BUT ... John McCain, Bill Gates, Steve Jobs, Larry Ellison, Katie Couric, Cardinal Mahoney, Tony Villaraigosa, Bill Keller, Chris Matthews, Lindsay Grahmnesty, Juan Williams, and ... BARACK OBAMA are not Jews."

Both Larry Ellison and Katie Couric are half-Jewish.

Svigor said...

White liberals constantly try to meld all the different Latin American nationalities into one aggrieved race to use as a club to whomp white conservatives. Unless they are actually employed in the Hispanic Racket, however, Latins tend not to care very much.

And the more they succeed in bringing in a diverse set of Latin American immigrants, the less success they'll have at making a bloc of them.

So how is baseball honoring their legacy, almost exactly 100 years later? By holding its 2011 All-Star Game in the cradle of America’s new nativism.

Maybe we should honor the legacy of Latin achievement by trying to be more like Latin Americans? You know, reciprocate their immigration policies? Naaah, reciprocity is racist.

And the Jewish narcissists believe this, not just because they blindly assume that everyone is just like them, but because, in their insane fears of an outbreak of white Christian anti-Semitism in the most philo-Semitic country in world history … they believe that if something is shown to be wrong with immigration, then America’s proto-Nazi white Christian majority will think there’s something wrong with the immigration that brought the Jews here, and will turn on the Jews. As crazy as it sounds, that is the way the liberal Jewish mind works, as I have shown at more length here.

Bzzzzt. Wrong. They believe that the less homogeneous and intelligent the populace, the better things will be for Jews. This isn't something that can be papered over, as Auster suggests. It's a fundamental divergence of interests, deriving from the fact that Jews are an inherent minority (which is why all the smart Jews live in America, Australia, Canada, etc., rather than Israel). Well, after you cut through the self-deception, of course, which is mere window dressing; intelligent people need complex self-deception to do all the bad things Jews get up to.

It’s important to realize that this broad campaign in the respectable Main Stream Media to incite racial hatred of whites among Hispanics isn’t at all the result of a conscious Jewish conspiracy.

Indeed, but it is very much a result of a total inability on their part to give a damn about anyone but their own, a total lack of honest introspection.

he-who-says-A-must-say-B verbal logic

I don't know what that means. Are we talking slippery slope fallacy here, or what?

Svigor said...

The problem with Whiskey's dodge is that you can criticize 1-5, but not Jews. Where there's smoke there's fire, I says.

As for the people who say it isn't all the Jews, that's fine. But it is partly the Jews. How much is an open question, one which Jews are primarily responsible for suppressing.

As for the people who attack people for "overemphasizing" or "obsessing over" Jews, they're hypocrites. They demand that individuals be balanced, and are just fine with society being unbalanced as a result. I.e., the entirety of the mainstream media and political class ignoring Jews' responsibility, and in fact enforcing a taboo on criticizing them, that's okay; but a couple guys at a blog trying to make up for the imbalance is bad bad bad.

I'm supposed to take these hypocrites seriously?

Howard Hughes said...

"What you miss is that there are a very large number of non-Jewish groups and individuals that want an open border. Business lobbies, ethnic activists, labor bosses, bleeding heart Christians, expedient Tammany Hall style politicians looking for a docile vote bank, bueracrats, politically correct liberals. Taken together, they're more than enough to keep the border open."
There certainly are a number of key players behind the Third World invasion. They absolutely ought to be analyzed, studied and criticized, too. However, the single most important factor is the Jews. The countries in Europe that have been struck hardest by immigration are the ones with a big and/or very powerful Jewish population: the Netherlands, the UK and France.

Svigor said...

Business interests are naturally pro-slavery. Being able to buy and sell people is good business. Why doesn't business get their way on this?

Svigor said...

How much?

http://majorityrights.com/index.php/weblog/comments/1509/

http://majorityrights.com/index.php/weblog/comments/1510/

So there's one data point.

Svigor said...

"How much?" aside, I take the Israeli position; the other is not good for us, we ought to have our own space, community, and institutions, and we ought to actively keep the other out (IMO, that includes people whose "otherness" consists solely of opposing or denying the right to keep out the other).

These are rights and ideas I acknowledge for all peoples, btw.

IHTG said...

The countries in Europe that have been struck hardest by immigration are the ones with a big and/or very powerful Jewish population: the Netherlands, the UK and France.

Why don't you research what actually happened in those countries instead of making a correlation/causation fallacy?

Howard Hughes said...

"Why don't you research what actually happened in those countries instead of making a correlation/causation fallacy?"
It's han hypothesis, genius. The countries that I have studied - the United States, Australia and Sweden - created an open borders-policy after significant influence from Jewish groups. It is not a random crapshot to guess that something similar happened in the UK - maybe Europe's most PC tyrannical country - and Holland - non-white majority in Amsterdam, yay!

What views on immigration do Jewish owned-newspapers let forward? What positions do Jewish intellectuals have? What are the Jewish organizations saying themselves ("we're very proud of our anti-racist work")? Is it really so hard to take a harsh look at reality, or do everything have to be concluded in a research paper?

"Göran Rosenberg [Swedish-Jewish pundit] recalled that historically, Jews had always thrived in nations and empires with multicultural, pluralistic and tolerant environments, while they fared badly in strong ethnic or nationalistic societies. European Jews have always been the emblematic stranger or ‘other’. Therefore, by definition, a society where the stranger is welcome is good for the Jews, although they have not always appreciated this link."
You don't say.

Kylie said...

"'How much?' aside, I take the Israeli position; the other is not good for us, we ought to have our own space, community, and institutions, and we ought to actively keep the other out (IMO, that includes people whose "otherness" consists solely of opposing or denying the right to keep out the other).

These are rights and ideas I acknowledge for all peoples, btw."


Agreed. I would add only that we pay only for our own space, community and institutions. Those of us who feel they have to help the less fortunate can do so by relinquishing their citizenship in our nation and going to live alongside whatever needy others they feel compelled to help.

Truth said...

"Business interests are naturally pro-slavery. Being able to buy and sell people is good business. Why doesn't business get their way on this?"

They do, by buying and selling the people who make the immigration policies.

ben tillman said...

BUT ... John McCain, Bill Gates, Steve Jobs, Larry Ellison, Katie Couric, Cardinal Mahoney, Tony Villaraigosa, Bill Keller, Chris Matthews, Lindsay Grahmnesty, Juan Williams, and ... BARACK OBAMA are not Jews

Larry Ellison (Jewish birth mother, raised by Jewish aunt and uncle) and Katie Couric (Jewish mother) are in fact Jews. But so what?

Why are you so sure that the non-Jews do not hold similar views because of indoctrination, incentivization, and intimidation issuing from the Jewish community? Or from imitation of successful people who, not coincidentally, hold those views?

Anonymasaurus Rex said...

"It wouldn't be so bad to go through life bearing the same last name as one of the 1,000 or so individuals who are so famous they are just known by their last names."

You're implying lots of people know (or care) who Mahler is. Sadly, not many.

I can think of only two pop cultural references to Mahler.

One is in the series "Frasier," where Niles is lamenting the end of his marriage to Maris, and how he used to play Mahler for her on the piano on Sunday mornings. Frasier interjects, "But Niles, you hate Mahler!" Niles replies: "Besides Maris, who doesn't?"

The other is this old song by my favorite math professor, Tom Lehrer.